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				<description><![CDATA[ [b][u]Witherings[/u][/b] 8 out of 15<br /> <br /> Cities of Intuition [50] (Zora) : Kami and Kara<br /> Jen-Lai : No<br /> Hoi-Cho : No<br /> Min-Cho : No<br /> <br /> [color=cyan]Maiden Grove [100] : Kara Not Kami [/color]<br /> <br /> [color=yellow]Haven of Purity [150] : Kami Not Kara [/color]<br /> <br /> Grove of Umbra [200] : Kami and Kara<br /> Knot of Dementia [200] : Kami and Kara<br /> <br /> Void [250] : No<br /> <br /> <br /> New Kara TP in HoP (194m North of Bighorn Mountain Farm)<br /> New Kara TP in MG (217m South of Great Boulder workshop)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:39:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [b][u]Verdant Heights[/u][/b] 10 out of 17<br /> <br /> Majestic Garden [50] (Yrkanis) : Kami and Kara<br /> Natae : No<br /> Davae : No<br /> Avalae : No<br /> <br /> [color=yellow]Fleeting Garden [100] : Kami Not Kara[/color]<br /> <br /> Knoll of Dissent [150] : Kami and Kara<br /> <br /> Hidden Source [200] : Kami and Kara<br /> [color=cyan]Upper Bog [200] : Kara Not Kami[/color]<br /> Heretics Hovel [200] : Kami and Kara<br /> <br /> Grove of Confusion [250] : No<br /> <br /> New Kami TP in Upper Bog at the Welcomer (152m out of the West exit from Stalia Stronghold)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:33:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [b][u]Aedan Aqueous[/u][/b] 9 out of 19<br /> <br /> Liberty Lake [50] (Fairhaven) : Kami and Kara<br /> Crystabell : No<br /> Windermere : No<br /> Avendale : No<br /> <br /> [color=cyan]Winds of Muse [100] : Kara Not Kami [/color]<br /> [color=yellow]Dew Drops [100] : Kami Not Kara [/color]<br /> <br /> [color=cyan]Fount [150] : Kara Not Kami [/color]<br /> [color=yellow]Resting Water [150] : Kami Not Kara [/color]<br /> <br /> Bounty Beaches [200] : Kami and Kara<br /> [color=yellow]Enchanted Isle [200] : Kami Not Kara [/color]<br /> <br /> Lagoons of Loria [250] : Not Kara (Kami not checked)<br /> <br /> <br /> New TP in DD at the Kami Welcomer<br /> New Kami TP in Fount 203m South of Corrie Finley Farm]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:14:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [b][u]Aedan Aqueous[/u][/b]<br /> <br /> Liberty Lake [50] (Fairhaven) : kami/kara<br /> Crystabell : nope<br /> Windermere : nope<br /> Avendale : nope<br /> <br /> Winds of Muse [100] : tryed to get kara, but didnt get it (dont know if i was neutral or still undetermined) (should be kara)<br /> Dew Drops [100] : (no access)<br /> <br /> Fount [150] : kara, kami welcomer only<br /> Resting Water [100] : (should be kami only)<br /> <br /> Enchanted Isle [200] : (should be kami only)<br /> Bounty Beaches [200] : Kami/Kara<br /> <br /> Lagoons of Loria [250] : Not Kara<br /> <br /> --<br /> should be... / no access is based on Marjo's post]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:21:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Going from Marjo's &lt;a href=http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showpost.php?p=263127&postcount=137&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; on the forums the neutral tps are simply all but purple & blue zones and PR. I think. I reserve the right to be completely wrong... <img src="http://forum.ballisticmystix.net/jforum//images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" /><br /> <br /> &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Edited:&lt;/b&gt; ignore me. I read it properly this time and i've realised i'm talking nonsense... Doh!&lt;/i&gt;<br /> <br /> p.s. Can this info be added to the maps in some way?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:23:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Petej]Liberty Lake [50] (Fairhaven) : Kara Not Kami<br /> Bounty Beaches [200] : Kara Not Kami[/quote]<br /> when did you get these ? when guild was still undetermined state ?<br /> <br /> i can have both Kami/Kara tp's in FH and BB.<br /> fame with kami -0 and kara +0 (or was it other way around, was playing with temple guards at that time <img src="http://forum.ballisticmystix.net/jforum//images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" /><br /> race fames, at least 60+ in every race, undetermined still<br /> tryker char]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Dec 2005 07:10:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hmmm thats weird then lol , I did BB (and FH) on my Matis Alt -she has speed 2 lol , shes Matis , in my storage Guild (undetermined for both) , Undetermined Race , Neutral Faction but will have some Kara fame (-10 Kami , 10 Kara) so maybe that blocks some Kami TP's ?<br /> <br /> Did you try DD Kami ? I got that one<br /> <br /> Rechecked FH and BB Kami's n it only shows DP pacts on my Matis and my BM (Tryker/Karavan) Tryker (Undetermined/Neutral)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Dec 2005 10:35:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [b][u]Burning Desert[/u][/b] 10 out of 16<br /> <br /> Imperial Dunes [50] (Pyr) : Kami and Kara<br /> <br /> [color=yellow]Oflovaks Oasis [100] : Kami Not Kara[/color]<br /> <br /> [color=yellow]Frahar Towers [150] : Kami Not Kara[/color]<br /> [color=cyan]Sawdust Mines [150] : Kara Not Kami[/color]<br /> <br /> Dunes of Exile [200] (Dyron) : Kami and Kara<br /> Savage Dunes [200] (Thesos) : Kami and Kara<br /> [color=cyan]Outlaw Canyon [200] : Kara Not Kami[/color]<br /> <br /> Scorched Corridor [250] (Secret Kami Oasis) : No<br /> <br /> <br /> New Kara TP in Oflovaks (250m South of Waterbreakers/441m West of Kami TP)<br /> <br /> Checked on Fyros alt Neutral/Neutral +Kami]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:37:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Still cant get FH Kami on Jetep , thought that was gonna be the one with the fame issue in the patch notes :/<br /> <br /> Kami and Kara TP's back in Hidden Source +works for Neutrals (Kami 541m North of The Arid Matis camp / 222m North West of Virginia Falls Magic Pole))]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:10:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Think its gonna need the BM Storm Troopers/Raiding Party to track down possible Kami Teleports in Upper Bog n Heretics Hovel...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:25:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [b][u]Nexus[/u][/b] 2 out of 2<br /> <br /> [200] Kami and Kara]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:25:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Petej]Think its gonna need the BM Storm Troopers/Raiding Party to track down possible Kami Teleports in Upper Bog n Heretics Hovel...[/quote]<br /> name the time and i'll be there.<br /> <br /> HH had kami tp (and forum says it's still in old place), UB had welcomer and now it also has kami tp (by forum, it sounds to be in same place as welcomer was)<br /> <br /> both are relatively easy to get to <img src="http://forum.ballisticmystix.net/jforum//images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" />]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:51:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ahha just read that on the forum myself UB looks easy to get but HH is gonna be alittle tricky dontknow that area very well n the Torbs used to be impassable without speed]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:04:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ My ATS Fyros (Fyros/Neutral) , 9 Kami / -8 Kara can get BB & FH Kami so it looks like you need +Kami Fame , strange you do for these and not the others :/]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:52:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Petej]My ATS Fyros (Fyros/Neutral) , 9 Kami / -8 Kara can get BB Kami so it looks like you need +Kami Fame , strange you do for this and not the others :/[/quote]<br /> lol, it seems you are correct.<br /> just tried it and i cant get Kami BB with Karu, same story with FH kami tp, cant buy it ;-(<br /> <br /> checked FH temple guards and they are not mad at me. so kami is -0 (it was +0 before probably when i got the tickets from both tp's in BB)<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 31 Dec 2005 05:38:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just got FH Kami as well now , why just those two different to the others tho ? :/]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 31 Dec 2005 06:04:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Neutral TP's</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Haven of Purity Kara TP , Maiden Grove Kara TP , Dew Drops Kami TP and Fount Kami TP have all now moved next to their Welcomers<br /> <br /> Upper Bog Kami TP has moved -lol anyone know where the Kami Welcomer is ?<br /> <br /> I think thats all the ones which werent with their Welcomer (Oflovaks Oasis Kara is still in its pre-patch new position along with the moved Welcomer and still doesnt work for Neutrals)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 13 Jan 2006 02:20:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ maybe the TP landed on the welcomer....<br /> <br /> Keep up the effort!<br /> -Raku]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Neutral TP's</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So where is the Karavan tp in Oflavak's Oasis now?  I was looking for it around Oasis Rift last week but had no luck in finding it.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Its on the Southern end of the series of cliffs that run down the West side of Oflovaks Oasis almost on the border to the Frahar Towers Region]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 13 Jan 2006 14:40:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Gate of Obscurity Kami Altar moved to the Kami Welcomer <br /> <br /> and it's not working for neutrals. <br /> <br /> (I should have checked the subject before posting)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:21:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=thlau]Gate of Obscurity Kami Altar moved to the Kami Welcomer <br /> <br /> and it's not working for neutrals. <br /> <br /> (I should have checked the subject before posting)[/quote]<br /> <br /> np ive posted new TP positions (that dont work for Neutrals too) and heres another to prove it <img src="http://forum.ballisticmystix.net/jforum//images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" /><br /> <br /> Upper Bog Kami TP by the Welcomer (152m out of the West exit from Stali Stronghold)<br /> <br /> (Any credit for finding it goes to Rushin who had bought a ticket at the old location (wish id done that -doh!) - ported in and told me where to go)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Jan 2006 08:08:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ It seems Zora and Pyr Kami TP's now needs +Kami fame after the last patch my Neutral/Neutral Tryker Jetep can no longer get it (-9 Kami / 9 Kara)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 30 Jan 2006 05:00:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Petej]It seems Zora Kami TP now needs +Kami fame after the last patch my Neutral/Neutral Tryker Jetep can no longer get it (-9 Kami / 9 Kara)[/quote]<br /> ohh fun, slowly but finally they start to come to their senses and make tp's act like they should of acted from day 0* <img src="http://forum.ballisticmystix.net/jforum//images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" /><br /> lets hope they have not hit their head and they continue to fix other tp's similar way (code reusing is unknown to them it seems) and they remove this odd distribution of neutral tp's and make it possible to be friend, + fame, with both kami/kara for neutral.<br /> <br /> * when kami/kara invented tp's, kami/kara should of been balanced, -kami could not buy tickets from kami tp's, etc<br /> <br /> bah..<br /> <br /> <br /> sry <img src="http://forum.ballisticmystix.net/jforum//images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" />]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 30 Jan 2006 05:47:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Think its bugged not sure if its me or them lol<br /> <br /> Cant get either TP in Oflovaks Oasis or Frahar Towers (Kami used to work) :/<br /> <br /> <br /> Looks like all the Neutral TP's now require +Fame <img src="http://forum.ballisticmystix.net/jforum//images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" />]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 30 Jan 2006 06:02:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [quote=Petej]Looks like all the Neutral TP's now require +Fame <img src="http://forum.ballisticmystix.net/jforum//images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" />[/quote]<br /> looks like it... when i got Neniti to +kara, i was able to get Heretic Hovel Kara tp (with +kami it was not possible)<br /> <br /> gotta trek to FG with Neniti to check tp's there with +kara fame (gotta trek to lot of places <img src="http://forum.ballisticmystix.net/jforum//images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" /> burned most tp's lol)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:58:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Seems it is a bug :o<br /> <br /> [quote=Marjo]What you've described in your post Petej, is definitively not supposed to be. A neutral homin should be able to buy a "neutral" TP even with both a negative kami fame and a negative karavan fame, and his fame doesn't need to be around 0.<br /> We've done some testing to check this today. I was waiting for the result, that's why I didn't post earlier.  However, we haven't noticed any flaw in the TP system so far.<br /> <br /> If you experience yourself such a bug regarding the TPs for neutrals (you are faction neutral and cannot buy all the TPs listed here), please send a ticket providing as many details as possible. It's the best way for us to monitor bugs and to know exactly what to test in which conditions. [/quote]<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://ryzom.com/forum/showpost.php?p=277138&postcount=43" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ryzom.com/forum/showpost.php?p=277138&postcount=43</a><br /> <br /> Their (incomplete) TP list here:-<br /> <br /> <a class="snap_shots" href="http://ryzom.com/forum/showpost.php?p=263127&postcount=137" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://ryzom.com/forum/showpost.php?p=263127&postcount=137</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:40:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Petej]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <br /> <br /> [quote=marjo]However, we haven't noticed any flaw in the TP system so far[/quote]<br /> we are all seeing the same dream it seems <img src="http://forum.ballisticmystix.net/jforum//images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif"/> tp's are working as intended lol]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Feb 2006 04:01:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ karu]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Server just came backup after a Fix for the Neutral TP prob , so they [i]should[/i] be back now....<br /> <br /> [b][u]Witherings[/u][/b]<br /> Cities of Intuition [50] (Zora) : Kami and Kara<br /> Jen-Lai : No <br /> Hoi-Cho : No<br /> Min-Cho : No<br /> Maiden Grove [100] : Kara Not Kami<br /> Haven of Purity [150] : Kami Not Kara <br /> Grove of Umbra [200] : Kami and Kara<br /> Knot of Dementia [200] : Kami and Kara<br /> <br /> [b][u]Verdant Heights[/u][/b]<br /> Majestic Garden [50] (Yrkanis) : Kami and Kara<br /> Natae : No<br /> Davae : No <br /> Avalae : No<br /> Fleeting Garden [100] : Kami Not Kara<br /> Knoll of Dissent [150] : Kami and Kara <br /> Hidden Source [200] : Kami and Kara<br /> Upper Bog [200] : Kara<br /> Heretics Hovel [200] :<br /> <br /> [b][u]Aedan Aqueous[/u][/b]<br /> Liberty Lake [50] (Fairhaven) : Kami and Kara<br /> Crystabell : No<br /> Windermere : No<br /> Avendale : No<br /> Winds of Muse [100] : Kara Not Kami<br /> Dew Drops [100] : Kami Not Kara<br /> Fount [150] : Kara<br /> Resting Water [150] : Kami Not Kara<br /> Bounty Beaches [200] : Kami and Kara<br /> Enchanted Isle [200] : Kami Not Kara <br /> <br /> [b][u]Burning Desert[/u][/b]<br /> Imperial Dunes [50] (Pyr) : Kami and Kara <br /> Oflovaks Oasis [100] : Kami Not Kara <br /> Frahar Towers [150] : Kami Not Kara <br /> Sawdust Mines [150] : Kara Not Kami <br /> Dunes of Exile [200] (Dyron) : Kami and Kara <br /> Savage Dunes [200] (Thesos) : Kami and Kara<br /> Outlaw Canyon [200] : Kara Not Kami<br /> <br /> <br /> Checked working for Neutral/Neutral +Kami/-Kara , so far so good...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:24:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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